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ITEM NINE
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| G-Force wrote: | | ITEM NINE wrote: | | The Ataris wrote: | | Exige wrote: | | G-Force wrote: | | Smokes are actually useful |
They are when used correctly. However, almost no one on the server uses them correctly. |
i use smokes as a part of my strategy...especially useful when rushing garage.
however, CTs spamming smokes in garage usually make my job much easier. |
I'm glad we're on the same page on this. CT's smoking themselves in garage is retarded. |
No its not if you don't smoke you'll get scouted or rushed and get raped |
ya if you're standing in the smoke, you can't see. so unless you want to camp behind the dumpsters and wait for the T's (which is retarded anyway), then smoking garage is counter productive.
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SuicidalWhip
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:11 am Post subject: |
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I don't know if we need to vote on this. This started from one person QQ'n. I use flashes and smokes and like the way it is. If there is a vote, I say leave it be. This is a great discussion, but let's focus on solving the oil spill guys...ok guys. BP loving A-holes (lol, joke joke)
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Reaver
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| You can find flashbangs on the ground. We do not need 80 flash bangs a round u fucken noobs. You also cant get rid of smokes. How do u nade longhall as CT without smoking it? How do u get into garage as T without smoking it? If you get rid of smoke how am i going to trick noobs into thinking its a flash bang when im all out of them. 1 flash 1 smoke. |
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Sulor
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| EdgarAllenJoe wrote: | | I don't know if we need to vote on this. This started from one person QQ'n. I use flashes and smokes and like the way it is. If there is a vote, I say leave it be. This is a great discussion, but let's focus on solving the oil spill guys...ok guys. BP loving A-holes (lol, joke joke) |
I know at least 5 other people on my friends that agree with me and last night there was 2 people saying how they wish we'd get rid of flashes all together. I didn't bring it up they just randomly said it and i was like "YOU SEE IM NOT THE ONLY ONE!" Trolls gonna troll
GET RID OF THESE GODDAMN FLASHBANGS. Go to another server that has them disabled and tell me it isn't more enjoyable.
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flashbangs are annoying but i dont want to see them banned. they just mean i need to get better and be a better player. i personally use smokes but not at pre set places. i use them when i need cover to move to a new area. throw smoke, wait a few sec, run like hell. and it works. its an effective tool against snipers when im running with a para and it allows me to get closer so its a bit more advantageous for me.
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ITEM NINE
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| fraggle wrote: | | flashbangs are annoying but i dont want to see them banned. they just mean i need to get better and be a better player. i personally use smokes but not at pre set places. i use them when i need cover to move to a new area. throw smoke, wait a few sec, run like hell. and it works. its an effective tool against snipers when im running with a para and it allows me to get closer so its a bit more advantageous for me. |
Fraggle talking tactics is like a woman talking politics. it's just silly.
/inb4respectyourwomensrage
lol I agree, but I don't think enough people use them correctly. I think they're pretty pointless.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| ITEM NINE wrote: | | /inb4respectyourwomensrage |
[joke]women's rights[/joke]
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Bunnysaurr:3
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Flash bangs add more complexity to the game, making it more challenging even thoughh some people decide to abuse it :p
I say we keep them. |
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Exige
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| Reaver wrote: | | How do u nade longhall as CT without smoking it? How do u get into garage as T without smoking it? If you get rid of smoke how am i going to trick noobs into thinking its a flash bang when im all out of them.. |
I dont understand... you say that with one less flash per person there are plenty on the ground to pick up yet you also say that while there are 2 per person you still end up running out and having to rely on tricking people with smokes. Just sayin, it contradicts itself...
I never buy smokes in pubs, almost never take a hit nading long hall (skill in timing the throw with your movement is key.) and do just fine in garage. Ive actually found that smoking long hall severly limits the amount of damage i do with my nade since its a huge fucking sign that says "Hey Ts! Im Gonna Throw This Grenade At You! You Should Stay Where You Are And Not Duck Into Side Hall Where You Can Easily Escape The Blast And Still Pop Back Out To Continue Covering Long Hall!"
Besides, limiting flashes would severely weaken cts ability to storm tspawn. Making rounds longer with more camping and make tside even easier. Especially on a server where 80% of the population can only camp projector on t.
I've admined servers that experimented with banning and limiting flashbangs. Server pop went way down with banning them, slightly down with limiting and terrorists became unstoppable. Imagine how much more difficult it would be for all the noobs to get me out of crack without flashes because they used their one flash in garage... |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| ITEM NINE wrote: | | Fraggle talking tactics is like a woman talking politics. it's just silly. |
hey you got your dreams, i got mine. lol
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Exige wrote: | | Reaver wrote: | | How do u nade longhall as CT without smoking it? How do u get into garage as T without smoking it? If you get rid of smoke how am i going to trick noobs into thinking its a flash bang when im all out of them.. |
I dont understand... you say that with one less flash per person there are plenty on the ground to pick up yet you also say that while there are 2 per person you still end up running out and having to rely on tricking people with smokes. Just sayin, it contradicts itself...
I never buy smokes in pubs, almost never take a hit nading long hall (skill in timing the throw with your movement is key.) and do just fine in garage. Ive actually found that smoking long hall severly limits the amount of damage i do with my nade since its a huge fucking sign that says "Hey Ts! Im Gonna Throw This Grenade At You! You Should Stay Where You Are And Not Duck Into Side Hall Where You Can Easily Escape The Blast And Still Pop Back Out To Continue Covering Long Hall!"
Besides, limiting flashes would severely weaken cts ability to storm tspawn. Making rounds longer with more camping and make tside even easier. Especially on a server where 80% of the population can only camp projector on t.
I've admined servers that experimented with banning and limiting flashbangs. Server pop went way down with banning them, slightly down with limiting and terrorists became unstoppable. Imagine how much more difficult it would be for all the noobs to get me out of crack without flashes because they used their one flash in garage... |
Limiting flashes forces people to actually use them with some degree of skill. As it is right now I can throw upwards of 5 to 6 flashes every round. Its cheap. Also, what you say about long hall is coming from the perspective of a decent player. I myself leave longhall if it gets smoked. However, If im T and sitting in long hall, I would love to see you try and poke your head out without me blowing it clean off. Often I'll be flashed 10 times before I even make it to T spawn. Its not a huge problem but I just dont think everyone needs 2. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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LIMIT ONE BUY PER PERSON
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Honestly I hate flashbangs with a passion, but I'm also trying to put them into my play-style. One flashbang is annoying, two is outright rage, three is a dillweed team/enemy, four is rage quit, five is broken monitor, six is broken hand/foot.
I can't imagine play without them though...
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ITEM NINE
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| John D. Rockefeller wrote: | Honestly I hate flashbangs with a passion, but I'm also trying to put them into my play-style. One flashbang is annoying, two is outright rage, three is a dillweed team/enemy, four is rage quit, five is broken monitor, six is broken hand/foot.
I can't imagine play without them though... |
seven is necro?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Will people please stop necroing threads? Locked.
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